Publications & Broadcasting

Academic Publications (since 2020) 

(* Corresponding/ + Joint-first)


For article links and citation scores see my Google Scholar profile. 


Published 

2024

Velmet, Aro & Kirchhelle, Claas (eds.), Special Thematic Issue - Standards and their containers. Histories of Microbial Pathogens from the Colonial to the Postcolonial Eras, Engaging Science, Technology, and Society (ESTS) 10(1-2) (2024), https://estsjournal.org/index.php/ests/issue/view/41 

Velmet, Aro & Kirchhelle, Claas, "Standards and their containers – Introduction to the Thematic Issue on Histories of Microbial Pathogens from the Colonial to the Postcolonial Eras", Engaging Science, Technology, and Society (ESTS) 10(1–2) (2024): 221–234, https://doi.org/10.17351/ests2023.1419 

Kirchhelle, Claas* & Kirchhelle, Charlotte, "Northern Normal – Laboratory Networks, Microbial Culture Collections, and Taxonomies of Power (1939-2000)", Engaging Science, Technology, and Society (ESTS) 10(1–2) (2024): 292–336, https://doi.org/10.17351/ests2023.1445

Alas Portillo, Mirza; Paterson, Erin; Wells, Nadya; Vagneron, Frédéric; Kirchhelle, Claas*, Emerging Financial Models for Antibiotic Development (2000-2016). DryAP and Geneva Graduate Institute Witness Seminar (Strasbourg: UnivOak, 2024), https://doi.org/10.34931/n7pk-3n88


Alas Portillo, Mirza, Isabel M Gómez Rodríguez, Christoph Gradmann, Claas Kirchhelle, Jørgen J. Leisner, Laura D. Martinenghi, Erin L. Paterson, Maria Jesús Santesmases, Belma Skender, and Frédéric Vagneron, ‘Paradoxes of the antibiotic pipeline’, Nature Humanities & Social Sciences Communications (2024), https://doi.org/10.1057/s41599-024-03211-1

Collier, Carly & Kirchhelle, Claas+. Fear & Fever. 14 Days of typhoid in Edwardian Dublin [Graphic Novel] (Dublin: Dublin City Council, 2024), https://archive.org/details/typhoidland-open-access 

Brives, Charlotte & Kirchhelle, Claas*, ‘Variable Viruses: Introduction to a special issue on the past, present, and future of bacteriophage research and use’, Phage: Therapy, Applications, Research Vol. 5 No. 1 (March 2024), 1-3, https://doi.org/10.1089/phage.2024.0007

Turner, Paul E., Joana Azeredo, Ed T. Buurman, Sabrina Green, Jakob Krause Haaber, Douglas Haagstrom, Koichi Kameda, Claas Kirchhelle, Mercedes Gonzalez Moreno, Jean-Paul Pirnay, Mirza Alas Portillo, ‘Addressing the Research and Development Gaps in Modern Phage Therapy’, Phage: Therapy, Applications, Research Vol. 5 No. 1 (March 2024), 30-39, https://doi.org/10.1089/phage.2023.0045

Resch, Grégory; Charlotte Brives, Laurent Debarbieux, Francesca E Hodges, Claas Kirchhelle, Frédéric Laurent, Sylvain Moineau, Anna Filipa Moreira Martins, Christine Rohde, ‘Between Centralisation and Fragmentation – the past, present, and future of phage collections’, Phage: Therapy, Applications, Research Vol. 5 No. 1 (March 2024), 22-29, https://doi.org/10.1089/phage.2023.0043

Kirchhelle, Claas*, Miriam Lipton, Tristan Nolan, Wim Meijers, Senjuti Saha, Neeraja Sankaran, ‘Reuse, Repurpose, Recycle – Bacteriophages and Microbial Surveillance (1921-2023)’, Phage: Therapy, Applications, Research Vol. 5 No. 1 (March 2024), 14-21, https://doi.org/10.1089/phage.2023.0042

Kirchhelle, Claas & Brives, Charlotte (eds.), “Variable Viruses: The Past, Present and Future of Bacteriophage Research”, Phage: Therapy, Applications, Research Vol. 5 No. 1 (March) 2024, https://www.liebertpub.com/toc/phage/5/1

2023

Webster, Emily; Palanco Lopez, Paula, Kirchhelle, Claas*, 'Shifting targets: typhoid's transformation from an environmental to a vaccine-preventable disease, 1940–2019', Lancet Infectious Diseases (2023), https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(23)00500-5 

Kirchhelle, Claas*. The Antibiocene – towards an eco-social analysis of humanity’s antimicrobial footprint. Humanit Soc Sci Commun 10, 619 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1057/s41599-023-02127-6  

Glover, Rebecca E.; Singer, Andrew; Roberts, Adam; Kirchhelle, Claas, ‘Dressed for success? Why is the UK Antibiotic subscription model pilot being described as ‘successful’, Lancet Microbe (22.08.2023), https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(23)00250-1

Fairgrieve, Duncan, Marco Rizzi, Claas Kirchhelle, Sam Halabi, Geraint Howells, and Normann Witzleb. "No-Fault Compensation Schemes for COVID-19 Vaccines: Best Practice Hallmarks." Public Health Reviews (2023): 7, https://doi.org/10.3389/phrs.2023.1605973

Gradmann, Christoph and Kirchhelle, Claas, ‘Pills and Politics – a historical analysis of international antibiotic regulation since 1945’, in Rubin, Oliver, Boekkeskov, Eric and Munkholm, Louise (eds.), Steering Superbugs. The Global Governance of Antimicrobials (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2023), https://global.oup.com/academic/product/steering-against-superbugs-9780192899477?cc=fr&lang=en&# 

Fairgrieve, Duncan; Borghetti; Jean-Sébastien; Dahan, Samuel; Goldberg, Richard; Halabi, Sa; Holm, Søren; Howells, Geraint; Kirchhelle, Claas; Pillay, Avinashl Rajneri, Eleonora; Rizzi, Marco; Sintes, Martin; Vanderslott, Samantha; Witzleb, Normann, “No-Fault Compensation Systems for Vaccine Injury”, Tulane Journal of International and Comparative Law 31/1 (2023), https://journals.tulane.edu/jicl/article/view/3797 

Kirchhelle, C.*, & Podolsky, S. An Awkward Fit: Antimicrobial Resistance and the Evolution of International Health Politics (1945-2022). Journal of Law, Medicine & Ethics, 50 (S2) (2023), 40-46. https://doi:10.1017/jme.2022.78  

2022

Thornber, Kelly*; Adshead, Fiona; Balayannis, Angeliki; Brazier, Richard; Brown, Ross; Comber, Sean; Court, Caroline; Davidson, Iain; Depledge, Michael; Farmer, Caroline; Gibb, Stuart; Hixson, Richard; Kirchhelle, Claas; Moore, Keith; Motta, Marco; Niemi, Lydia; Owen, Steward; Pencheon, David; Pfleger, Sharon; Pitchforth, Emma; Powell, Nei; Schmidt, Wiebke; Smith, Richard; Sowman, Georgina; Tyler-Batt, Wendy; Wilkinson, Helen; Wilson, Edward C.F.; Fleming, Lora; Gaze, William, “First, do no harm: time for a systems approach to address the problem of healthcare-derived pharmaceutical pollution”, Lancet Planetary Health 6/12(2022), https://doi.org/10.1016/S2542-5196(22)00309-6

Palanco Lopez, P., Manyau, S., Dixon, J., MacPherson, E., Nayiga, S., Manton, J., Kirchhelle, C., & Chandler, C. (2022). Antibiotic Arrivals in Africa: A Case Study of Yaws and Syphilis in Malawi, Zimbabwe and Uganda. Medicine Anthropology Theory, 9(3), 1-31. https://doi.org/10.17157/mat.9.3.5633

Glover, Rebecca; Singer, Andrew; Roberts, Adam; Kirchhelle, Claas, “The antibiotic subscription model: fostering innovation or repackaging old drugs?”, Lancet Microbe (2022), https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(22)00235-X

Thornber, Kelly, and Kirchhelle, Claas, "Hardwiring antimicrobial resistance mitigation into global policy." JAC-Antimicrobial Resistance 4, no. 4 (2022): dlac083, https://doi.org/10.1093/jacamr/dlac083

Kirchhelle, Claas and Roberts, Adam, “Embracing the monsters: moving from ‘infection control’ to ‘microbial health’”, Lancet Microbe (2022) https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(22)00225-7

Saldanha, Saskshi+, Kirchhelle, Claas, Webster, Emily; Vanderslott, Samantha; Vaz, Manjulika, ‘Unseen and Unheard; the historical and contemporary vulnerability of Indian manual scavengers’, BMJ Global Health (2022):e008733. http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmjgh-2022-008733 

Kirchhelle, Claas, Typhoid – The Past, Present, and Future of an Ancient Disease (London: Scala Arts & Heritage Publishers, 2022).

https://scalapublishers.com/typhoid/

Kirchhelle, Claas, ‘Giants on Clay Feet – public health laboratory services in Britain, Germany, and the US between 1945 and 2020’, Social History of Medicine (2022), https://doi.org/10.1093/shm/hkac019 

Ryan, Hannah; Flammer, Patrik G.; Nicholson, Rebecca; Loe, Louise; Reeves, Ben; Allison, Enid; Guy, Christopher; Doriga, Inés Lopez; Waldron, Tony; Walker, Don; Kirchhelle, Claas; Larson, Greger; Smith, Adrian L., ‘Reconstructing the history of helminth prevalence in the UK’, PLOS Neglected Tropical Diseases April (2022), https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pntd.0010312

Weldon, Isaac; Van Katwyk, Susan Rogers; Burci, Gian Luca; Campos Thana C de; Eccleston-Turner, Mark; Fryer, Helen R.; Giubilini, Alberto; Hale, Thomas; Harrison, Mark; Johnson, Stephanie; Kirchhelle, Claas; Lee, Kelley; Liddell, Kathleen; Mendelsohn, Marc; Ooms, Gorik; Orbinski, James; Piddock, Laura J.V.; Røttingen, John-Arne; Savulescu, Julian; Singer, Andrew C.; Viens, A.M.; Wenham, Clare; Wiktorowicz, Mary E.; Zaidi, Shehla; Hoffman, Steven J., ‘Lessons for Antimicrobial Resistance from the Paris Climate Agreement’, American Journal of Public Health 112 April (2022), 553-557, https://doi.org/10.2105/AJPH.2021.306695

Glover, Rebecca; Singer, Andrew; Roberts, Adam; Kirchhelle, Claas, ‘2020 giveth, 2021 taketh away: the harmful consequences of the UK government’s decision to sell off its cutting-edge vaccine preparedness program only months after completing it’, BMJ 376 (2022), e069999, https://doi:10.1136/bmj-2022-069999


2021


Overton, Kristen; Broom, Alex; Fortané, Nicolas; Raymond, Stephanie; Gradmann, Christoph; Ebiowei, Sameul F. Orubu; Podolsky, Scott H.; Van Katywk, Susan Rogers; Zaman, Muhammad H.; Kirchhelle, Claas*, ‘Waves of Attention: patterns and themes of international AMR reports (1945-2020)’, BMJ Global Health, 6: e006909 (2021), https://doi:10.1136/bmjgh-2021-006909

Glover, Rebecca; Singer, Andrew; Roberts, Adam; Kirchhelle, Claas*, ‘NIMble innovation - a networked institute model for public antibiotic development and trials’, Lancet Microbe 2/11 (2021), https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(21)00182-8

Todd, Matthew H.; Idiris, Fahima; Klug, Dana M.; Dowson, Christopher G; Delft, Frank von; Roberts, Adam P.; Kirchhelle, Claas; Singer, Andrew C.; Blaskovich, Mark A.T., ‘Open up Antibiotic Development’, Wellcome Open Science (2021), https://doi.org/10.12688/wellcomeopenres.16847.1  

Fairgrieve, Duncan, Holm, Søren; Howells, Geraint; Kirchhelle, Claas; Vanderslott, Samantha, ‘In favour of a bespoke COVID-19 vaccines compensation scheme’, Lancet Infectious Diseases (2021), https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(21)00065-7

Kirchhelle, Claas & Vanderslott, Samantha, ‘The need for harmonised international guidelines ahead of COVID-19 human infection studies’, Public Health Reviews 42 (2021), https://doi.org/10.3389/phrs.2021.1603962  

Kirchhelle, Claas, ‘Between Bacteriology and Toxicology: Agricultural Antibiotics and US Risk Regulation (1949-1985)’, in Creager, Angela and Gaudillière, Jean-Paul (eds.), Risk on the Table: Food, Health, and Environmental Exposure (New York: Berghahn, 2021), 214-242, https://www.berghahnbooks.com/title/CreagerRisk#toc

Kirchhelle, Claas, Ruth Harrison and the History of British Animal Welfare Science and Activism (1920-2000) (London: Palgrave MacMillan, 2021). https://www.palgrave.com/gb/book/9783030627911


2020


Kirchhelle, Claas; Atkinson, Paul; Broom, Alex; Chuengsatiansup, Komatra; Ferreira, Jorge Pinto; Fortané, Nicolas; Frost, Isabel; Gradmann, Christoph; Hoffman, Stephen; van Katwyk, Susan Rogers; Lezaun, Javier; Nayiga, Susan; Outterson, Kevin; Podolsky, Scott H.; Raymond, Stephanie; Roberts, Adam P.; So, Anthony; Taylor, Liz; Singer, Andrew C.; Sringernyuang, Luechai, Chandler, Clare, 'SETting the Standard – multidisciplinary hallmarks for Structural, Equitable, and Tracked antibiotic policy', BMJ Global Health (2020); 5:e003091; http://doi:10.1136/bmjgh-2020-003091

Kirchhelle, Claas* and Gordon Dougan, ‘Make it new: reformism and British public health’, Lancet Microbe (03.09.2020), https://doi.org/10.1016/S2666-5247(20)30143-9

Hoffman, Steven; Savulescu, Julian; Giublini, Alberto; Kirchhelle, Claas; Van Katwyk, Susan Rogers; Weldon, Isaac; Campus, Brooke; Harrison, Mark; Maslen, Hannah; McLean, Angela: 'Achieving a Grand Bargain on the Global Antimicrobial Commons: Introduction to the Policy Dialogue: introduction to a special issue', Health Care Analysis (Mar 2020) http://doi.org/10.1007/s10728-019-00388-4  

Van Katwyk, Susan Rogers; Weldon, Isaac; Giublini, Alberto; Kirchhelle, Claas; Harrison, Mark; Mclean, Angela; Savulescu, Julian; Hoffman, Steven, 'Making Use of Existing International Legal Mechanisms to Manage the Global Antimicrobial Commons: Identifying Legal Hooks and Institutional Mandates', Health Care Analysis (Mar 2020), http://doi.org/10.1007/s10728-020-00393-y

Van Katwyk, Susan Rogers; Giublini, Alberto; Kirchhelle, Claas; Weldon, Isaac; Harrison, Mark; McLean, Angela; Savulescu, Julian; Hoffman, Steven, 'Exploring Models for an International Legal Agreement on the Global Antimicrobial Commons: Lessons from Climate Agreements', Health Care Analysis (Jan 2020), http://doi.org/10.1007/s10728-019-00389-3

Greenhough, Beth; Jervis Read, Cressida; Lezaun, Javier; Lorimer, Jamie; McLeod, Carmen, Benezra, Amber; Bloomfield, Sally; Brown, Tim; Clinch, Megan; D'Acquisto, Fulvio; Dumitriu, Anna; Evans, Joshua; Fawcett, Nicola; Fortané, Nicolas, Hall, Lindsay J. Hall; Herrera, César E.; Hodgetts, Timothy; Johnson, Katerina Vicky Ann; Kirchhelle, Claas; Krzywoszynska, Anna; Lambert, Helen; Monaghan, Tanya; Nading, Alex; Nerlich, Brigitte; Singer, Andrew C.; Szymanski, Erika; Wills, Jane, ‘Setting the Agenda for social science research in the human microbiome’, Palgrave Communications (Feb 2020), https://doi.org/10.1057/s41599-020-0388-5

Singer, Andrew; Kirchhelle, Claas; Roberts, Adam P, '(Inter)nationalising the antibiotic pipeline', Lancet Infectious Diseases (2020), http://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(19)30552-3

Kirchhelle, Claas, Pyrrhic Progress – Antibiotics in Anglo-American Food Production (1949-2013) (New Brunswick: Rutgers University Press, 2020) [Winner 2021 BSAH Thirsk Prize; 2020 Turriano ICOHTEC Prize; Long-listed 2020: Michel Déon Prize; highly commended 2020 PHE Antibiotic Guardian Research Award], https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/pyrrhic-progress/9780813591476

Journalism & Broadcasting


2024

Featured: Lifeline Musical Podcast: The Drugs Are In The Water [AMR and One Health] (22.08.2024), https://thelifelineproject.podbean.com/e/the-drugs-are-in-the-water/

Kirchhelle on the SETI Institute's Big Picture Science: "Not just a phage: avoiding a post-antibiotic world" (12.08.2024), https://radio.seti.org/ 

Kirchhelle featured in: "Covid Inquiry report exposes 'fatal strategic flaws' that meant pandemic cost more UK lives", The Standard (London) (18.07.2024), https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-inquiry-report-first-pandemic-ppe-lockdown-b1171460.html 

Kirchhelle featured in: "First Covid inquiry report to set out ‘appalling failures’ during pandemic", Guardian (14.07.2024), https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/14/first-covid-inquiry-report-to-set-out-appalling-failures-during-pandemic 

Kirchhelle on BBC Radio 4's In Our Time: Bacteriophages (04.07.2024), https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0020pf0 

2023

Kirchhelle Interviewed : “The Antibiotic Crisis Has a Troubling Twist”, Wired (07.02.2023)  https://www.wired.com/story/the-antibiotic-resistance-crisis-has-a-troubling-twist/ 


2022

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘Ces virus qui remplacent les antibiotiques’ 

Les Echos Week-End (17.11.2022), https://www.lesechos.fr/weekend/business-story/ces-virus-qui-remplacent-les-antibiotiques-1879949


Kirchhelle interviewed alongside Dr Rebecca Glover: "UK's 'baffling' sale of Covid vaccine facility"

Sunday National (29.03.2022), https://www.thenational.scot/news/20023855.uks-sale-world-class-oxford-covid-vaccine-facility-baffling-short-sighted/ 

Article: “Threats of Bioterrorism in Ukraine Are Part of a Long History” 

Authors: Elaine Joy and Claas Kirchhelle

Wired (11.03.2022), https://www.wired.com/story/bioterrorism-ukraine-long-history/

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘Patient safety and the right of the sick to reject care from  unvaccinated staff’, Independent (31.01.2022), https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-nhs-staff-latest-b2002861.html#comments-area

2021

Article: 'Coordinated clinical trials were key to the COVID vaccine triumph – the same must happen with antibiotics'

The Conversation (28.06.2021)

Authors: Claas Kirchhelle, Rebecca Glover, Adam Roberts, Andrew Singer

https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccine-trials-were-a-triumph-now-we-need-a-similar-system-for-antibiotics-162130 [also published in The Scotsman, Yahoo News, New Indian Express, The Week]

Letter to the Editor: COVID Compensation

Independent (07.05.2021)

Authors: Duncan Fairgrieves, Geraint Howard, Claas Kirchhelle, Samantha Vanderslott, Søren Holm

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/hartlepool-keir-starmer-brexit-b1843805.html

Interviewed: ‘People who suffer rare reactions after vaccines ‘left in the dark’ 

without any support, warn families’

Independent (07.05.2021)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-side-effects-blood-clots-b1843067.html

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘In defence of the AstraZeneca vaccine – and what comes next’         

Independent (15.04.2021)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots-latest-uk-b1829326.html

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘Misconceptions over AstraZeneca jab safety could drive global vaccine divisions, expert warn’

Independent (11.04.2021)

https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/uk-news/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots-b1829154.html

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘We have to remember, learn and prepare’: Is the UK ready for the next pandemic’

Independent (23.03.2021)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-uk-next-pandemic-vaccine-b1820647.html

Interviewed on “Body Politics” podcast (25.03.2021)                                                             

https://www.bodypoliticspodcast.com//podcast/episode/4b2d8b67/fattened-calves-and-educated-microbes-the-political-history-of-agriculture-and-anti-microbial-resistance

2020

Letter to the Editor: Vaccine approval and safety measures                                              

Authors: Duncan Fairgrieves, Søren Holm, Geraint Howells, Claas Kirchhelle, Samantha Vanderslott

The Times (07.12.2020)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/times-letters-vaccine-approval-and-safety-measures-khzp5msqn

Kirchhelle Interviewed: 'Cholera'

Futuremakers Podcast: The History of Pandemics (Univ. Oxford)

https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-11-20-futuremakers-podcast-the-history-of-pandemics

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘Laying the Foundations – Disease and the Emergence of Public Health’,

Green European Journal (30.11.2020)

https://www.greeneuropeanjournal.eu/laying-the-foundations-disease-and-the-emergence-of-public-health/

Kirchhelle Adviser: ‘The risky way to speed up a coronavirus vaccine’;                       

Vox.com documentary on Human Challenge Trials;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2fxJI_cP58

Kirchhelle Interviewed on BBC Radio Oxford Breakfast Club                                    

History and pandemics (15.10.2020)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08srn1x

Blog: Page 99 Test – Pyrrhic Progress (Campaign for the American Reader)

http://page99test.blogspot.com/2020/06/claas-kirchhelles-pyrrhic-progress.html

Article: ‘Challenging Circumstances: we need international guidelines for human infection studies’ 

Authors: Claas Kirchhelle & Samantha Vanderslott

Medium (11.06.2020)

https://medium.com/oxford-university/challenging-circumstances-we-need-international-guidelines-for-human-infection-studies-688051c869f9

Kirchhelle featured as expert on ‘Coronavirus: Explained – Race for a Vaccine’,                                                   

Netflix/Vox three-part series on COVID-19

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81273378

Kirchhelle Interviewed: ‘COVID-19’, the aftermath: insights from history                                     

Oxford Science Blog (22.05.2020)

https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-05-22-covid-19-the-aftermath-insights-from-history

Article: Antibiotic Resistance Could Lead to More COVID-19 Deaths 

Authors: Claas Kirchhelle, Adam Roberts, Andrew Singer

Scientific American (01.04.2020)

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/antibiotic-resistance-could-lead-to-more-covid-19-deaths/

Kirchhelle Interviewed: "COVID-19: Insights from history"

Oxford Science Blog (24.03.2020)

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/covid-19-insights-history-0

Kirchhelle Featured on Oxford University Medium:                         

'How Oxford's most famous character is helping to drag typhoid

out of the rabbit-hole (20.01.2020)

https://medium.com/oxford-university/how-oxfords-most-famous-character-is-helping-to-drag-typhoid-out-of-the-rabbit-hole-e88a8b67819f

Kirchhelle advisor/ featured on: Featured on “Surprisingly Brilliant” (Gregg Foot)         

Seeker Podcast on Mary Mallon/ Typhoid Mary

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/death-by-peach-melba/id1502149340?i=1000476045017

Kirchhelle interviewed on BBC Radio 4 'Inside Science'                                                                                 

Typhoidland and Typhoid Mary (30.01.2020)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dqz3

Kirchhelle interviewed on BBC World Service 'Health Check'                                                                       

The Past & Present of Typhoid Control (29.01.2020)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy9l2